tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6982924932060917225.post7678139328891320448..comments2023-10-09T20:40:53.980-04:00Comments on Kovels Komments | Weekly eNewsletter about Antiques and Collectibles: IRONSTONE VICTORIA COAT OF ARMSAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09315614751727976326noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6982924932060917225.post-79416077304557993652010-02-24T17:09:23.971-05:002010-02-24T17:09:23.971-05:00I think the point of this fake might have been to ...I think the point of this fake might have been to make the china appear to be of British origin. The Victoria pottery sold a lot of their wares in Britain, which probably explains the name Victoria.<br /><br />The Mexican manufacturer may not even have known there was an Austrian/Czechoslavakian/German manufacturer named "Victoria." They may have chosen the name purely because it sounds British.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6982924932060917225.post-32506014676436715302010-02-24T17:05:37.716-05:002010-02-24T17:05:37.716-05:00http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain...http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain/marks_table2.html<br /><br />this great website has hundreds if not thousands of pictures of marks on china. <br /><br />I don't remember seeings a mark like that on Ginny's page. Also, Victoria mainly produced porcelein. there's some history of the factory there as well. <br /><br />So, I would have to lean toward this being a fake, but I'm not a china expert.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6982924932060917225.post-80750517600576432382009-12-11T01:14:22.184-05:002009-12-11T01:14:22.184-05:00i have studied this mark on that ironstone pottery...i have studied this mark on that ironstone pottery for several years, it is a mexican pottery, co, it is made new it is not old, not even 20 years,i lived in bisbee arizona when i first bought a piece that looked to be flow blue with this mark, i got took big time, i kept the piece in my home and the more i looked at it the more i studied the man on the horse on most pieces, he and the horse are decked out, he is a mexican and his surroundings are mexico, i went to agua prieta mexico and found tons of this ironstone on pallets, it is made in mexico it is new made to look old and it is cheap in mexico..it fools many people. victoria is or was a high up figure in mexico, the stuff is not worth much, i have a friend that paid in missouri 157.00 for a wall pocket ,she swore it came from england but it did not, look very closely to the pictures on the items, mexican money has victoria on it and there is a place ,a town or county there called victoriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6982924932060917225.post-24024408687052036222009-12-09T13:48:13.956-05:002009-12-09T13:48:13.956-05:00THERE WAS A POTTERY AND PORCELAIN FACTORY IN AUSTR...THERE WAS A POTTERY AND PORCELAIN FACTORY IN AUSTRIA - HUNGARY EMPIRE (IN BOHEMIA)THAT MARKED THEIR PRODUCTS ``VICTORIA``, THE MARKS ITSELF BEING VERY DIFFERENT IN SHAPE.SOMETIMES CHINA WAS MARKED ``VICTORIA``- AUSTRIA. THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT EXPORT TO UNITED KINGDOM.MOST OF THE PRODUCTS ARE DATED BETWEEN 1900 AND 1914, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS THAT THE FACTORY CONTINUED PRODUCTION AFTER WW I IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.I THINK THAT THE ITEM IS NOT A FAKE BECAUSE THERE IS NO POINT TO PRINT A FAKE MARK OF AN UNKNOWN MANUFACTURE. JUST FOLLOW ``THE RULE OF THUMB`` FOR <br />19th CENTURY CHINA: NO MARKS MEANS LITTLE KNOWN, SMALL FACTORY, BECAUSE PRINTING MARKS INCREASED THE COST OF PRODUCTION.<br />IVAN MILOVIC,PhD.BELGRADE,SERBIAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com